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Coffee...

By TOTON2017
This is a coffee cup with coffee.

Tags: Specialist and abstract Food photography

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dudler Plus
16 1.2k 1664 England
14 Mar 2020 7:59AM
Yes, it's a cup of coffee!

The colour suggests strong and delicious coffee: the cup and table colour work well, and the light difrection is excellent.

But the composition, the shutter speed and the aperture suggest a little bit of a disaster.

Composition - it would be really satisfying to see all of the cup and saucer. Alternatively, crop really tight.

Shutter priority and low(ish) light have led the caemra to set its widest aperture, and has given a degree of underexposure, as well as minimal depth of field. I'd have been looking for f/11 and either high ISO or a tripod so that all of the cup could be sharp. And, crucially, Aperture Priority.

There's the basis for a number of different and satisfying images here, but the technical settings have not served the art well.

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14 Mar 2020 8:13AM
Itís a happy cup of coffee, too, going by the wording inside the rim 🙂
chase Plus
14 1.6k 381 England
14 Mar 2020 8:54AM
At F1.8 and this close you are not going to get very much in focus, Johns' mod is a big improvement on this image, particularly if you were going for the bubbled and reflections.

A little bit more info would be helpful, for instance, what were you hoping to achieve ?
mrswoolybill Plus
13 2.1k 2228 United Kingdom
14 Mar 2020 9:30AM
Full marks for experimenting, first of all. BUT...

I'd like to know your thinking behind the settings, you used shutter speed priority and you must be aware that you did not need 1/1250 second! So why 400 ISO, to start with?!

You have an F1.8 lens, but under most conditions it is not actually a good idea to use it at its largest aperture - honestly! It will actually perform better at F3.5 to around F11.

A lot of people assume that very shallow depth of field is in itself desirable, that if you have F1.8 it is compulsory to use it. It can work for some subjects where you really want to isolate important detail. But that requires very well thought-out focusing. Here you focused on the bubbles at the centre - but the area closest to the viewer is the lower rim and the bubbles immediately above it. Having that area soft really creates a barrier to the viewer's eye.

(F1.8 might work with central focus if you were looking straight down on the coffee from above it, so sharp bubbles at the centre softening outwards to a perfectly circular and uniformly soft rim... )

And then you customized White balance, and it didn't work out, the result is very cold, very blue.

A bit more thought is needed, and you need to really get to understand your settings so that you can use them creatively to good effect.
Moira
banehawi Plus
16 2.2k 4137 Canada
14 Mar 2020 3:43PM
A colourful cup indeed.

You didnt select f 1.8, the camera did due to the fast shutter and ISO 400, so a slower shutter, about 1/80 would have provided a better aperture, and likely allowed the shot to be a little brighter. Im guessing you selected ISO400, so the camera was prevented from exposing properly, as it couldnt let more light in.


Its still a decent shot, but with some thinking ahead, it can be better. Mod loaded.



regards



Willie
15 Mar 2020 9:14AM
Okay, thank you so much for your valuable suggestion. I will try my level best for the next photo.
15 Mar 2020 10:08AM

Quote:Full marks for experimenting, first of all. BUT...

I'd like to know your thinking behind the settings, you used shutter speed priority and you must be aware that you did not need 1/1250 second! So why 400 ISO, to start with?!

You have an F1.8 lens, but under most conditions it is not actually a good idea to use it at its largest aperture - honestly! It will actually perform better at F3.5 to around F11.

A lot of people assume that very shallow depth of field is in itself desirable, that if you have F1.8 it is compulsory to use it. It can work for some subjects where you really want to isolate important detail. But that requires very well thought-out focusing. Here you focused on the bubbles at the centre - but the area closest to the viewer is the lower rim and the bubbles immediately above it. Having that area soft really creates a barrier to the viewer's eye.

(F1.8 might work with central focus if you were looking straight down on the coffee from above it, so sharp bubbles at the centre softening outwards to a perfectly circular and uniformly soft rim... )

And then you customized White balance, and it didn't work out, the result is very cold, very blue.

A bit more thought is needed, and you need to really get to understand your settings so that you can use them creatively to good effect.
Moira

15 Mar 2020 10:09AM
Actually, my first thought was to take the shallow depth of field because I wanted to defocus other area. Now to avoid the hand shake, I thought of taking the picture with high shutter speed.
banehawi Plus
16 2.2k 4137 Canada
15 Mar 2020 1:16PM
1/100th would be fine to avoid shake, though understand what you intended. (Twice the focal length)
2 Apr 2020 9:59AM
You have got the right idea. The thing about food and drink photography is all about the styling of the product you are photographing. There are billions of cups of coffee, so what makes a photo of one interesting? Well you have used a narrow depth of field with the focus on the coffee, that is a technique often employed by food photographers. You have removed any extraneous background detail with the perspective you have chosen, which is good. The surface you have chosen to photograph the cup on works well for me.
However, I agree that the image is too dark. The exposure on the surface of the coffee looks ok but you need some more light on the cup. Try using some white card to bounce some light into the shadows. The surface of the coffee isn't that appealing, perhaps a swirl of crema or a frothy surface, or as it is but with smaller bubble. I'm not a coffee drinker. As for the cup, the interior looks a bit irregular, choose a better cup or retouch the image to improve the appearance of the cup. Also this cup has a message, but it is partly obscured. It should an integral part of the shot or not there at all.
You are on the right track, so please try it again, but spend more time planning it.

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