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By Websjen
many thanks for the kind votes and 2 awards given yesterday.i am always humbled with the wonderful response to my photos....
This photo for today is very different, i went on a photo shoot organised by my local club, and i loved the challenge, i am open to comments please, i think i may have lightened her eyes a tad too much... but i will wait for your views on the photo....
she was a fantastic model....and so photogenic.....

Tags: Portrait Black and white

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FabioKeiner 7 111 1 Austria
11 Sep 2016 11:11AM
not an easy beauty... but so highly ingtense her look!
I could imagine an entire series her face closer and closer for close-ups Smile
banehawi Plus
16 2.3k 4176 Canada
11 Sep 2016 3:08PM
I agree with your own assessment re the eyes.

New Years Eve 2014 is the date shot, so no wonder she looks cold!

She has an interesting face, hope you took lots of shots. I have uploaded two mods, eye whites are less bright as is her nose and ears, and one mod is a portrait crop.

Its not difficult to do this, and if you would like to know who, just leave a comment.


mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.4k 2290 United Kingdom
11 Sep 2016 3:39PM
I like this a lot, it has an unconventional beauty which beats conventional beauty any day. It looks strong, honest. The eyes are pretty well exactly 1/3 from the top of the frame, that puts them on my eye-level, direct contact. Or confrontation...

As Willie says, you have answered your own question, but I would expand a bit. The eyes look too bright in the context of the shadows above and below them. (And I do mean shadows, not the smudged mascara, which is brilliant). There's also a dark shadow beneath the hairline above her right (left to us) brow, and there's a strange light streak down the sides of both cheeks. I'm not sure how you have processed this, but I would prefer a smoother tonal effect.

Also as a contrast I would like to try placing her further off-centre, so a crop off the left hand side. Then crop to square to place the nose on the left third...

OK I'm off to try a mod of my own...
mrswoolybill Plus
14 2.4k 2290 United Kingdom
11 Sep 2016 3:53PM
I've uploaded a quick modification, a different crop plus I have tried to even out some of the harshness in the face. Unfortunately it slightly reduces the effect of the water droplets.

But you have done quite a bit of work, haven't you? I really would be interested to see the colour original.
dudler Plus
17 1.4k 1739 England
11 Sep 2016 5:55PM
Welcome to Ephotozine - I see you joined last month - and to the Critique Gallery in particular. Here: no votes, but thought-through feedback.

And this is in my specialist area (I shoot a lot of portraits and nudes), so to speak, so I hope I can give some useful ideas.

Willie and Moira have said a lot about this already, and I don't disagree with any of what they've said.

Haunting, like a still from a Scandanavian film: I would absolutely love to photograph this model. She has a presence and character that must have made for a lot of good pictures.

It's the B/W conversion, I think, that is the problem. I'm assuming that you used Nik Efex or something similar to convert a colour original, and that can cause a couple of issues with fringing, tonality, and sharpening - conversion software can do a lot of clever stuff, and sometimes it gets a bit out of control. Here, there's a slightly harsh look to some of the tones, and a very sharpened feel overall.

I'd be interested to see the unprocessed original - if you can't upload it as a version, could you do so as your own modification, please?

My mod used Adobe Camera Raw to reduce contrast and increase exposure. I don't want to lose the feeling of reality, cold water and warm flesh, but I wanted to make her skin plaer, softer - maybe more vulnerable.

Did it work? What do you make of it?
paulbroad 13 131 1290 United Kingdom
11 Sep 2016 6:00PM
Much like a movie still. Well composed and good quality, but looks rather less than natural. The eyes, as you indicate yourself, are causing that and the result, whilst, as I say, a movie still or book/magazine illustration, is not an image I could live with for long.

That is, of course, personal, but her look is a bit un-nerving.

11 Sep 2016 8:02PM
hi everyone ..well thank you for all your comments and modifications you have taken the time me today and I'm very grateful..e to do for me...i have taken them all on board and sent pm's to everyone who did a modification...this has been a amazing instructional day for me.

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