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All Together All Alone

By WeeGeordieLass    
This was taken at the Jamia Masjid Mosque in Delhi.

I know the Exif is not good but this was a grab shot - I saw this group and took a quick snap without having time to change the camera settings.

I like the shot and even though using ISO 1600 was probably a bad move I've tried to make the best of the image with the processing.

What I like is the way these guys are all sat together but at the same time they all seem to be in their own little world.

I've tried processing the shot in B & W also and think it works quite well.

I've also uploaded the original image and I'd be grateful for any opinions on the shot and also my processing.


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ErictheViking 5 124 102 Scotland
16 Mar 2013 5:23PM
Elaine pet this is a canny shot for a quick grab I really like it.

You've already mentioned the settings and I agree they may not be the best but you've got them to work so I wouldn’t fret about them.

I also like the group and the detachment of the members as well as the example of the elders in traditional dress and the younger generation's move to modern western clothes.

If I was to offer any advice get into the practice of resetting your camera to something more suitable for this type of shot so your more prepared.

Well done bonny lass.

Erik Grin

ps sorry for the colloquial language, but I lived with the "Monkey Hangers" for 8 years.

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pablophotographer 6 952 335
16 Mar 2013 5:27PM
Hello world traveller!

I like the fact you have gone stealth, again. Smile I must say though for V1 I would expect the frame to include the knee cap of the man on the right.

I hope you have a nice time.
16 Mar 2013 5:49PM
Hi Eric,

Thanks for making me smile with your Geordie seem pretty fluent for a Scot Wink

I'm glad you like the shot and I'll take your advice on board about being more organised with my camera settings..............when I first arrived in India I was in a kind of "frenzied photographer" state and was taking shots of anything and everything. When I settled down after a few days I did calm down a bit, took a bit more time thinking about my camera settings and also got a bit more discerning with what to shoot.

Thanks a lot bonny lad - your advice is much appreciated.

16 Mar 2013 5:53PM
Hi Pablo,

I hope you're well......yes I think it's a shame that I chopped off the knee cap of the guy on the RHS. It does bother me a little bit when I look at the shot - I might try and add some space to the RHS and clone in his knee. I'm useless with cloning though and would probably mess it up !!

Thanks for taking the time to comment Pablo.

16 Mar 2013 6:06PM
I really like this shot. I like the colour version much better, I find the different colours of the clothing and skin tones interesting, and there's nothing distracting at ll about the colour of the background.

Personally, I prefer to use autoiso when travelling, that way you can leave it set to 400 and it'll only go up if and when you need it. If I do manually set it (which I often do when carefully composing a shot), I always put auto back on straight away and out the camera in program mode in case of grab shots like this when you don't have the time to adjust. My logic is - if you have the time to adjust then you can do Smile Not everyone likes auto iso, but it works for me.

My D90 also has a very handy 'reset' function - you press two buttons with green dots above them, and it resets to auto wb, auto ISO, matrix metering etc (detailed menu settings remain unaffected). I use this resetting immediately after every time I do any manual adjustments and its a great habit to get into. I'm sure the D3100 has something similar, just in case you haven't discovered this feature yet (it took me six months to realize it was there).
NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
16 Mar 2013 6:12PM
Well travelled and well documented Elaine.

banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3894 Canada
16 Mar 2013 6:12PM
Your settings were quite OK. Its a nice shot, - it has an importance, and reminds me a little of the last Supper!

I like what youve done, though I would prefer colour.

I loaded two mods, and one doesnt have that knee problem.


paulbroad 10 123 1250 United Kingdom
16 Mar 2013 6:30PM
Good image in general and well composed. V1 and v2 for me. V3 too heavy. The mono works well but could do with a touch more contrast. What I find un-nerving is that every one of them is looking somewhere different giving an unbalanced effect. Would prefer a singular angle of gaze, so to speak.

mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
16 Mar 2013 6:36PM
It's good to see more from your journey. A really attractive picture here - Willie's first Mod is more or less what was going through my mind on opening it. That ledge needs to be level, otherwise no real problems. It's a pity about the knee (it might be possible to clone in a bit of extra space, but probably wouldn't look convincing), but I think the balance of five figures, an uneven number, is crucial. The fact that the central man is cross-legged is a gift!
banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3894 Canada
16 Mar 2013 7:06PM
The odd number is a good point. I will try a knee transplant..

mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
16 Mar 2013 7:09PM
I too have tried knee surgery - Mod uploaded. It took very little time, I don't approve ethically but it was a lot of fun!
banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3894 Canada
16 Mar 2013 7:17PM
Also performed knee surgery mod! It not unethical, - he did have a knee..

ErictheViking 5 124 102 Scotland
16 Mar 2013 7:29PM
Sounds like a meeting of orthopeadic surgeons WinkWinkWinkWink

Erik Grin
mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
16 Mar 2013 7:32PM

Quote:Sounds like a meeting of orthopeadic surgeons

Well I know one epz member who has had much less successful knee replacement surgery than this in recent months.
banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3894 Canada
16 Mar 2013 8:12PM
I tried crossing the legs of the man on the left, - thats going way too far, - thats unethical!

Over here its Orthopedic Surgeon. Mangling the language.

17 Mar 2013 1:36PM
Hi Everone............sorry I couldn't reply last night - ended up in A & E with my 9 year old granddaughter in agony with her hip joint. Pleased to report after examinations and an x-ray and nearly 5 hours waiting to be seen she's fine. Prescribed rest and a break from her dancing and swimming (she's not happy about that!!).

Hi Jonny (onetrickpony) - Thanks for taking the time to comment, I'm glad you like my shot. Also thanks for the very valuable advice about auto ISO and the reset button.....this is something I never knew about. I can see how useful it would be though so will get to know those controls before I venture out with my camera again. Cheers JonnyGrin

Hi Nathan - Thanks for your nice comment

]Hi Doctor Willie - Thanks for you're excellent surgical procedure...........I like your knee surgery mod!.......Was it you I saw in A & E tonight with a hammer and chisel in your hands??Wink

Hi Paul - I'll try adding a bit more contrast to the B & W image as you suggest. Thanks for your opinion on the angles of gaze.........I thought this point may be an issue for some people, and I understand where you're coming from. The fact that they're all looking in a different direction is actually what I like about the shot. It's good to know what other people's opinions are though.

Hi Moira - I'm really lucky to have not one, but two Orthopaedic Surgeons on duty tonightnGrinGrin Thanks for the mod - it's great. That guy definitely looks better after your surgery..........the angle of the ledge looks one heck of a lot better after your straightening too. I agree totally about the number of guys, and seeing those 5 sitting there, and the way in which their bodies were positioned - cross legged etc was why I raised my camera to my eye in the first place.

Thanks so much everyone for your help, assistance, opinions and advice...............also the banter Grin

mrswoolybill Plus
11 1.2k 1929 United Kingdom
17 Mar 2013 2:31PM
Elaine, I just love your approach. You've got a great eye, you're interested in the world and you're doing this because you love it. That is worth so much.
17 Mar 2013 4:45PM
Hi Moira,

Thanks very're spot on about my motivation for taking photos - just wish I had more time for it! Grin Thanks for all your help.

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