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My First Bird Image

By WelshKiwi  
OK, I probably need some help here.

Lots of firsts with this image.

1. First time shooting Birds.
2. First time using a D300
3. First time shooting in RAW other than mucking about.
4. First time Ive done RAW processing by myself proper.

I need to know the following.

1. Have I gone in to close ??
2. Have I over processed it ??
3. Have I over sharpened it ??

The only things I did, were, on the RAW conversion thingiee was check my exposure, checked my white balance, do the recovery thing ?? Slide the black slider back, and adjust the clarity and vibrance.

I lightened it a little too.

Dont really like asking this but I think it looks better large. Would appreciate you looking and commenting and giving me any help at all that you would think I could benefit from Smile

Thanks everyone.

Lee Smile

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Comments


anpix 13 88 United Kingdom
12 May 2008 5:33PM
Great photo
Q1 No-Maybe a tighter crop on its eyes as they are powerfullAnd yes you have lost part of the birds head
Q2 No
Q3 No
its spot on.
Andrew
Well done
martin.w Plus
19 608 28 United Kingdom
12 May 2008 5:33PM
1. A little, because the full circle of the birds head maybe needs to be seen, but the plus point is there is nothing at either side of the head to catch the eye.
2. No, looks ok to me.
3. No again, the large version looks fine.

Focus it where it needs to be, on the beak and eyes, and it does grab the attention from the thumbs Smile
WelshKiwi 13 3.2k 2 Wales
12 May 2008 5:37PM
Thank you.

I have a habit of going in too close with everything, it is done on purpose but me thinks it is not obvious so it may look wrong.

Ive got ones with the full roundness of the face but Im saving those for the submission I have to do very soon..... Just want and need some advice first....

Thanks again, great Crit peeps Smile
looboss 14 3.1k 7 United Kingdom
12 May 2008 5:56PM
well since you wont have any idea what I will be talking about I shall do my best to critique this in a foreign language Smile

jeg synes den er en meget fint billede, den er ikke så slemt i hvert faeld! det er en godt forst prove.
farvener er godt og så er composition, jo! Jeg synes den er godt knock!

tak.
looboss 14 3.1k 7 United Kingdom
12 May 2008 5:59PM
After my tea I ma going to work on this a bit see what I can come up with Smile
rowarrior 13 4.4k 9 Scotland
12 May 2008 6:14PM

Quote:Well since you wont have any idea what I will be talking about I shall do my best to critique this in a foreign language

jeg synes den er en meget fint billede, den er ikke så slemt i hvert faeld! det er en godt forst prove.
farvener er godt og så er composition, jo! Jeg synes den er godt knock!

tak.



ROFL Luis!

Lee, your wol's a teensy bit cross-eyed, but it is sharp round there at least

Possibly a tad fuzzy at the edges (and I don't mean cos he's fluffy!)

Great first effort with the camera and RAW though!
csurry 19 9.2k 92
12 May 2008 6:18PM
Generally either include all the face or crop in even closer than this.

Colouring looks a little on the red side on my monitor - but it helps cos I know the owl in question and Cheep really is quite grey and white.

Doesn't look over-sharpened.

Probably needed a bit more DOF. Not sure what aperture you shot at (I guess I should know, but I don't).

The rear feathers to the side of the eye just need to be a little sharper.
luxaeternam 13 21 1
12 May 2008 6:19PM
Hi Lee,
the composition is a question of taste. I don't think you're too close, but others might do. It aint oversharpened either from what I can see large. The only niggly thing for me is the feather detail on the edges which is lost to the background.
HTH
Smile Lucy
User_Removed 18 39 6 Scotland
12 May 2008 6:19PM
Other than a closer crop this is one dam fine shot, well done

victor
WelshKiwi 13 3.2k 2 Wales
12 May 2008 6:21PM
PMSL @ Louis, sorry though, I talk kiwi Smile and can not understand a word you just wrote lol Smile

Look foward to the mod though.....

Smile
whiteswan01 13 13 England
12 May 2008 6:22PM
great shot looks bose eyed to me lol no to all Dawn
Ian_Trayner 13 1 1
12 May 2008 6:56PM
IMHO taste is very subjective and we don't need to look for a SINGLE best composition. My first impression was I would like to see the entire face. I also tried cropping to just include the sides of the head side-to-side, and from just above the "eyebrows" to just below the beak up-and-down. And I was surprised how striking the resulting image is. Blow it up big and it would scare the hell out of my cat (actually he is sufficiently intelligent not to be fooled by pictures). The D300 is a truly excellent tool and I am sure you will grow to love it. If you are using Nikon's Capture NX software - it is incredibly slow and somewhat unstable on my computer. I don't think it is oversharpened either, by the way Smile
MrsS 14 4.5k 18 England
12 May 2008 7:09PM
I want to vote!!!!!! Wink

Nice and sharp, and you've already had the best criticism from the Lady who took you there! Smile

Fran x
WelshKiwi 13 3.2k 2 Wales
12 May 2008 7:22PM
Thank You Everyone.

Ive looked back at the original image and I must agree with Cheryl, it is a tad too red.

I wont pull this though, rather, I will work on another and post that tomorrow, that way we/I can compare how Im improving or not improving lol with a like for like image.

Im sure its easier to work on than a jpeg image though, am I right ???

Thans again all, I really do appreciate it.

Lee Smile
joolsb 16 27.1k 38 Switzerland
12 May 2008 7:37PM
Looks fine to me!

Nice work, Lee.
looboss 14 3.1k 7 United Kingdom
12 May 2008 7:55PM
hope you like my mod Smile
WelshKiwi 13 3.2k 2 Wales
12 May 2008 7:58PM
LOL @ Lois its cool. Not sure how it would go down with the natural history gang though....

But I like it Smile
Grimm 14 587 6
12 May 2008 9:36PM
Very Good Lee.
csurry 19 9.2k 92
13 May 2008 9:42AM
Actually just looked at the crop and realised why it looked odd last night.

The left hand side of the face is sharper than the right. Which is why my eye was drawn to the softness. When doing these shots you need to try and get parallell to the face to ensure maximum DOF.

But I probably should have told you that at the time Smile
bricurtis Plus
15 2.5k 51 England
13 May 2008 1:01PM
[Quote]The left hand side of the face is sharper than the right.[/Quote]
You have some blown out detail on the other side as well as appearing soft - which nobody has mentioned.
WelshKiwi 13 3.2k 2 Wales
13 May 2008 1:37PM
Thank you all for your comments, much appreciated. Next time I do this I will remember all the help and advice.

Lee Smile

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