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Beauty Sleep

By wenzu78  
Here I am at it again.

This time following Mario's suggestion, I tried to experiment a little in B&W. Tried to get the focus on my kids hand that's why the thumb is a little out of focus.

Feel free to amend or comment guys.

I appreciate a lot.


Tags: Black and white Mother and baby

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NDODS 7 5.1k 125 United Kingdom
28 Feb 2012 7:54AM
A very emotive and touching image. Love to see this type of genre in monochrome. Seems to bring out the sensitivity contained within the image.

Regards Nathan

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wenzu78 6 7 Malta
28 Feb 2012 7:57AM
Greatly appreciated Nathan.


DRicherby 9 269 725 United Kingdom
28 Feb 2012 11:42AM
This is an interesting and creative shot and it's always good to see new angles.

However, it doesn't quite work for me. I think it's because the hands are so strong that the child's head is barely there -- if you crop out the head completely, the photo hardly seems to change. I think I'd find this more natural if you'd used a longer focal length and shot from farther back. From that perspective, you'd get a better balance between the size of the hands and the head.

Some technical things. You have enough depth of field at f/4.8 (and it would be hard to use a narrower aperture anyway because you're already at very high ISO and a relatively slow shutter). However, you've focused a little too far back, which means the child's cuff is sharp but mum's thumb isn't. When working close up, bear in mind that the region of sharp focus is split roughly 50/50 in front and behind of the point you focus on.

The photo is somewhat over-sharpened, which has caused pixellation. The problem may have been that you did too much noise reduction, which took away detail, and then tried to sharpen to get that detail back. Especially in black and white, it's usually better to have good detail and a bit too much noise, rather than good noise and not quite enough detail; people are used to grainy black and white shots and will tolerate quite a lot of noise because of that. It also looks like the tip of mum's thumb has blown out, either due to slight over-exposure or because of something done in processing.

wenzu78 6 7 Malta
28 Feb 2012 12:15PM
Hi Dave,

Am really grateful for your comments and just wanted to let you know that I will try my best int implementing a few of them.

All the photos I've submitted so far are totally done without any kind of technical awareness or professional knowhow, this is why am here sharing my trials so to learn and get better. Having said that I'am yet to dedicate time to just immerse myself into any particular picture. I know that my camera will fully allow me to manipulate things if I want to. Sometimes I tend to trust it a little too much, but whenever I tried taking pictures using other cameras I tend to find them being too hard or less colorful than my latest efforts.

I might fall into a kind of photographer who tends to look for a 'cinematic' feel to the shots I take. Sometimes it works and on other occasions simply sucks hehe.
I'll keep in mind all your criticism and make sure next time you'll notice less and less stuff to correct. Or different ones Smile.

Dave you seem really in the know and I'll treasure your constructive comments.


pamelajean Plus
12 1.1k 2022 United Kingdom
28 Feb 2012 4:59PM
I think the image of the hands could stand alone without the baby's head in the shot, Wenzu. I found this one on the site, which may give you some ideas. I'd also like to have seen a bit more space on the left, as the fingers are close to the frame edge.
wenzu78 6 7 Malta
28 Feb 2012 5:25PM
Hi pamelajean,

thank you for choosing to give me your crit and also share a beautiful picture to get some ideas from.

Being in 'virtual' presence of such accomplished photographers can only bring the best of me.

My goal would be to get an emotional image just by having hands as the main subject. The one you shared was a sublime example ... now I just have to drop that idea out Tongue just kidding of course.

Thank you once again


banehawi Plus
14 1.8k 3890 Canada
28 Feb 2012 7:20PM
Ive uploaded a mod Wenzu. In addition to all the above, and perhaps at the risk of repeating some points, the only shot here is the hands, - everything else can go. Its a nice moment captured nicely, if only the hands are invlved.


wenzu78 6 7 Malta
28 Feb 2012 7:27PM
Thank you Will,

In fact I've had various shots on the day, and the hands were my primary subject in all of them.

You are right there, if only the hands were involved in the first place...



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