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Down Low

By Wireworkzzz  
Deception Bay Qld AU. Named for the rocky shoreline and very shallow waters.
I am trying shooting at different angles. Would really appreciate comments positive or negative about the focus, distance subject , basically any advice at all..

Tags: Landscape and travel Coastlines Rocks and Stones

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PatriciaWilson 16 617 58 Greece
6 Oct 2016 1:59AM
It's a lovely place, and you have great colour, but it seems to be lacking a focal point. Also, I think you could have made more of the location, which is great.

Reflections add a whole new dimention. Get up close to make the most of those puddles, or if you can go higher with a long lens and shoot down into them. Probably best to use a poloriser to get clear reflections of the lovely red rocks, trees and great sky. Compose by using the rule of thirds, deciding if the scene, or the reflection, is going to be your subject.

When you find your perfect composition, play around with your f stop. Take a series of the same shots, using a tripod and lower iso (100) if you can, going through a range of f stops, some very low, some very high. Then, break rules, see what you like, try and capture it.

Take lots of shots, from low down to as high as possible, and have fun! Hope that helps,
Patricia X
paulbroad 13 131 1290 United Kingdom
6 Oct 2016 8:48AM
What you have done produces a perfectly good pictorial record. Trim a lot off the sky, it's just not needed. You did not need f16. Huge depth of field is not important here, just careful focusing and f5.6 or f8.

The problem for general viewing is impact. The image lacks strong focal point to give a firm composition and needs a bit of strength and drama. Ideally stronger lighting and/or weather conditions, but as you cannot dictate that, a stronger viewpoint. Low, high, large object in the foreground? Something to demand attention.

Thankyou Patricia & Paul. I knew this photo did not look right but I couldn't work out why. You have enlightened me and I have taken it all on board. I would normally not include any that are not up to scratch but I can now see that ePHOTOzine is an excellent site for learning and growing with my photography.
banehawi Plus
16 2.4k 4200 Canada
6 Oct 2016 1:02PM
Welcome to the critique gallery Rae.

You have some good feedback already above, so I will try to add to whats been said.

Its natural to look for a wide scene with a wide lens, and this has some good elements, but lacks a focal point. Think about the difference it would make if there had been a person walking there, or a small canoe, or the like; it would totally change the same image.

When I look closer, I see wonderful folds and textures in the soil or rocks that, in the absence of a focal point for a wide shot, would make interesting close shots, theres a lot of interesting stuff in there when you look.

One thing to realise is that when you are there, what you see is influenced by the environment, the mood, the temperature and the camera doesn't convey that emotional aspect, so you need to try to convey as much as you can. Its takes a bit of practice, but it comes.

Technically, you did well to use +0.3, however +1 would work better, as its a little underexposed. I am guessing you focused on the far bank, or the trees, and if you focused a little closer to where you stood, that foreground would have been more in focus, as well as the trees.

The low pov is god, and works well.

I have uploaded a mod with exposure and white balance tweaks, click the Modifications button under your image to see it; best to shoot in RAW, and use you RAW processor to tweak the white balance as it can often be overly blue in bright sunny conditions. The mod is also cropped to a 16 X 9 format, so there less sky and foreground, and it will appear wider.

Look forward to seeing more down low from down under!


Thanks Willie your addition comments have also been very helpful and I think I will start a critique Diary so I can always refer back to them. Deception Bay just took my breath away when I found it and I have taken heaps of photos but can't seem to capture that magic. But I will keep on trying until I get it right.
PatriciaWilson 16 617 58 Greece
6 Oct 2016 3:21PM
I just wanted to add, sometimes 'the magic' has nothing to do with photography skills, it's the light!

Try going at dawn, before sunrise, and stay for an hour just watching the magic happen. It changes by the second. Go again at mid day, and then at sundown. Long shadows are great for adding mood and drama, and short shadows (noon) are brilliant for enhansing texture. Try using flash on some of your midday closeups.

Don't forget to look behind you now and again. The light can produce dramatic changes to the most mundane scenes.

Good luck!
TanyaH Plus
17 1.3k 409 United Kingdom
6 Oct 2016 6:41PM
Welcome from me too, Rae Smile

Patricia's picked up on the one thing I gleaned from your comments above - the 'magic'.

What is it about Deception Bay that takes your breath away? Is it the landscape itself? The way the light falls? What emotions does the place conjur up in you that you want to try and evoke in your imagery of it? Sometimes, it's that emotive side that's the key to 'working' with a location until you get the images you want. It's also not easy sometimes, as some days you'll feel differently to others.

Blue sky and fluffy white clouds are lovely, don't get me wrong, but often a location takes on a completely different atmosphere in stormy, moody weather. Threatening skies, hints of light here and there, shadows that seem sinister ... that kind of thing.

The other thing I'm noticing in the image above is that, although those rocky formations are intriguing, I'm kind of wondering about the trees beyond them. What are their root systems like? Are they twisty? Half buried in water? Dry and dusty? Part of me wants to see them in their entirety visually and I'm finding myself wanting to walk into the image and over those rocks to see what's beyond them ...

Thanks Tanya. I have just been asking those questions you suggested. There are many rock formations in strange squares and complete circles etc but no one knows how they got there. I think this is driving my emotions about it. Wondering & imagining what happened here and knowing that I may never know.
PS. I hope I haven't been over nominating but I value the technical information as well as the emotional side of photography.
dudler Plus
17 1.4k 1775 England
7 Oct 2016 9:05AM
Hi, Rae -

And a slightly-belated welcome form me, too. You have lcearly understood exactly what the Critique Gallery is for, and you are using it beautifully: and no, you aren't over-nominating: you've got a lot of really constructive comments above, and every one that you've nominated fits the criteria precisely. That, and your engagement with the comments, makes you the perfect poster as far as the members of the Critique Team are concerned!

Having had a long day at work yesterday, I didin't spend any time in the galleries last night - and there's nothing much left for me to add, other than my delight at what I've read above, and my fervent hope that you will post more pictures in the Critique Gallery, demonstrating how you are developing you work.

I could add that your settings were sound, though the aperture could have been wider, as Paul says. The Olympus and Lumix M43 cameras give plenty of depth of field because of the relatively short focal lengths that a sensor that is a quarter of the area of a frame of 35mm film needs. Diffraction effects kick in at wider apertures than on lenses on larger formats, though, so if there is no specific reason to stop down heavily, keeping to two or three stops down from maximum aperture will give the best possible sharpness.

See you soon!
Thanks Dudley. I am looking forward to getting out there and using all the info I've received.
Thanks Dudler (Not Dudley) Sorry.
dudler Plus
17 1.4k 1775 England
7 Oct 2016 4:05PM
It's an easy mistake to make. 'dudler' is actually a misspelling of my surname, from when I was a student... It stuck as a nickname!

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