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found the original version of yesterdays image is this no edit v any better

Camera:Canon EOS 550D
Lens:10.0 - 22.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 15.5 - 34.0 mm)
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:8 Aug 2011 - 1:41 PM
Focal Length:22mm
Shutter Speed:1/500sec
Exposure Comp:-1/3
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Evaluative
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Cloudy
Username:youmightlikethis youmightlikethis
Uploaded:15 Mar 2014 - 4:30 PM
Tags:General, Humour / fun, Photo journalism, Portraits / people
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banehawi Critique Team 111264 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada3286 Constructive Critique Points
15 Mar 2014 - 5:27 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Thanks for loading the originals Ian.

All of them are underexposed for me. You are shooting into the light for example in V1. The exif will show the settings only for V1, and youve used a negative compensation, rather than a positive compensation which would be better. This is something that confuses many shooters, as its slightly counter-intuitive. The way to approach this is to consider what the camera itself will do when you have light behind the subject, and that is, it will reduce exposure. So, to get the main subject exposed well, you need to override this by applying a correction, which will address the cameras underexposure, by using a positive compensation. The only time you need negative comp is when shooting a black cat in a dark room! In this case, the camera will do the opposite, it will overexpose to get the blacks closer to grey, so you need negative ec to override.
One thing also to be aware of, - white balance is very dependant on the correct exposure being made, so an underexposed image is more likely to have inaccurate WB.

Apart from this, and looking at V1, I love the face and expression. I would be inclined to leave in more of the context, as in the square cropped mod, but its a matter of taste. The main adjustment though is to add exposure to the scene, and especially her face. Then you can do the mono thing you do from a better starting point. I also uploaded a very simple, straight default mono conversion.

I will take a look at the other two shortly.



Last Modified By banehawi at 15 Mar 2014 - 5:28 PM

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dudler Critique Team 12315 forum postsdudler vcard England612 Constructive Critique Points
16 Mar 2014 - 5:10 AM

V3 works best, as the exposure is closer to being right, I think. It's always a difficult choice when there's a wide exposure range in shot, and sometimes even the best modern exposure system messes it up.

This is why the old way, from when I was a lad, actually worked well: you took an exposure reading, set the caemra, and didn't change thigns unless the light changed. A bit of extra sky in frame did not upset matters...

You have, also got a big challenge on with hoodies and dark skin. You need to render the tones right, but it is very easy to let them tip over into too dark: and if you overcompensate, you risk lightening beautiful skin too much. So it's important to review the pictures and the histogram carefully, and tweak the exposure if it isn't lookign great.

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paulbroad  8108 forum posts United Kingdom964 Constructive Critique Points
16 Mar 2014 - 8:00 AM

Willie covers it. Under exposure is the problem and by quite a bit more than 1/3 stop. V1 and 2 are potentially first rate images, but the exposure and consequent attempts to rectify have spoilt things. Do you reguularly check the LCD for errors?

V3, fails for me due to there being two distinct subjects, but just the tenuous link of hoodies. The exposure is the nearest to correct. If I were confronted by these two, hugs would be the farthest thing from my mind.


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